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Forum: Wishes and new features

Topic: Deck Merging
So let's say you only play on 2 decks and on deck 1 you have the drums and then deck 2 you have the new track but the drums are underwhelming so thats why you put a loop on deck one. Now you think the song sounds better like this but since you only have 2 decks you have to kill deck 1 eventually.

Here I present you: Deck Merging

You merge deck 1 into deck 2 and it keeps the slider values and loop that you have applied to deck one and their value changes proportionally to the changes you make on the new deck merge. So now you have a free deck again! I think ideally it should only be activated when theres a loop present.
 
Posted Wed 28 Oct 26 @ 6:49 pm
If you are combining drums from both decks, you probably achieve that with a deck move (Deck 2 > Deck 3) and then activation of Dual Deck on Deck 1 (might have to change some mappings for pads for that to work, as the dualdeck operation in a lot of cases has to be explicitly specified in the script if I'm not mistaken).

If you are replacing the drums of deck 1 with deck 2, you can use the Stem Swap Sampler (record the drum loop from from deck 2 into a Stem Swap Sampler bank, go to that bank on deck 1, and trigger the replacement).

An extension (not sure if it is already possible) would be to make the Stem Swap sampler layer instead of replace (which would do the first suggestion more directly and without the use of an extra deck).
 
Have you tried it?
 
you've just invented moving the sampler output thru a deck. Which we can do.
 
So you're saying you can create a sample on the fly from a loop, and then play that sample on a loop on the desired deck?
 
hang on, you haven't even invented that, you've invented turning the stems for the drums up.
 
🤨 Do exactly what I said on the fly and then Ill believe you
 
BlueberryAlien wrote :
Have you tried it?


I've done blending multiple drums before with multiple decks and tried Stem Swap on various parts before, so the answer is yes.
 
Yeah, >multiple decks< and stem swaps, I dont want to swap the stems I want to merge them. Not just the stems but the whole track.

I want you to create a loop on the fly, adjust eq and then merge that loop into a playing deck. No prerecorded samples. Can you do that?
 
The point I'm trying to make is what you are trying to achieve (play the drums or any other stems in as a replacement or combination with another deck and potentially control them both together afterward) can already be done. You are just suggesting the devs implement another way to do it, the terminology you use ("merge them") doesn't matter, the end goal does.
 
I would appreciate a demo because I'm not familiar with those functions thank you.
 
Description I gave is clear and the manual is there for all of the features mentioned - feel free to experiment for yourself and learn what's available.
 
Too many moving parts and you have not tried it yourself otherwise you wouldnt use "might". A simple deck merging button would do the trick AND it's something all 2 deck users would absolutely love to use. Yeah Im sure you can do it in 100 steps but it seems too experimental and unreliable to do live. You really expect me, or the average user to read the entire VDJ manual? Maybe 1%, not even, go that far. Stop thinking about what YOU can do, and start thinking about how to make that shit easy to use for the average user. They put natural language scripting in when back then locodog told me to just "learn how to use vdjscript". Where the hell would we be if we only listened to you guys instead of making shit easy to use. How about you stop replying to my threads from now on. Plus Im pretty sure moving shit to deck 3 would conflict with dualmode to begin with as it's still a buggy feature.
 
Your main problem is you talk, but you don't listen or try the suggestions given, so you'd never actually learn what can and can't be done.

I'm not saying that your suggestion cannot be a helpful approach, I'm simply saying it's an approach, and there are other ways of doing what you want that already exists, and I've already done it in the ways I've told you about (otherwise I wouldn't have suggested them). I don't have to show
you what can and can't be done, and I don't even have to help you - I don't work for you/am not some underling you can order around, I'm a fellow forum member trying to help you. Respect goes a long way on this forum, and judging from your behavior in most of your posts, you don't seem to understand that at all, and probably will have a hard time here/ultimately be ignored if you don't change your attitude.

The ball is in your court - we are here to help you. If you think you know everything, and you're too good to read the manual/try the suggestions vs everyone else, that's okay too, but it's you who's losing, not us.